tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538825134834187144.post3793523640050799146..comments2023-06-01T10:52:44.280-04:00Comments on The Gospel-Driven Church: The Two-Fisted Gospel: A Manifesto for Kingdom MilitancyJaredhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07454966527986478217noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538825134834187144.post-57875063661896289602010-03-16T20:08:18.194-04:002010-03-16T20:08:18.194-04:00okay. Understand. Great post. I like the imagery o...okay. Understand. Great post. I like the imagery of a "two fisted gospel."Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07471458254482308816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538825134834187144.post-63372211834072417332010-03-16T08:45:37.306-04:002010-03-16T08:45:37.306-04:00Will:
Can you point me either to where this is sh...Will:<br /><br /><i>Can you point me either to where this is shown in the bible, or to some book that explains where this idea comes from.</i><br /><br />Yep. Aside from Jesus and John the Baptizer before him announcing that "the kingdom is at hand," there is the matter of Jesus ascribing all the messianic/kingly prophecies to himself, being welcomed as the king into Jerusalem, Jesus telling people that the Spirit of the Lord was upon him to proclaim good news to the poor, his exorcising of demons and performance of miracles, and Peter proclaiming at Pentecost that the prophecies of Joel were coming true. <br /><br />The Sermon on the Mount presupposes the kingdom was "in play" in a real sense.<br /><br />Paul says we are citizens of heaven, meaning "on the earth."<br /><br />The best book I could recommend on the subject is George Eldon Ladd's <i>The Gospel of the Kingdom</i>, or even his <i>The Presence of the Future</i>.<br /><br />If I may engage in a bit of self-promotion :-), you could check out my book <i>Your Jesus is Too Safe</i>. The chapter titled "Jesus the King" synthesizes these ideas/concepts on the kingdom of heaven being both "already" and "not yet."Jaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07454966527986478217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538825134834187144.post-64202530892082274712010-03-16T08:40:51.834-04:002010-03-16T08:40:51.834-04:00Marty:
You got a little bit a ahead of yourself w...Marty:<br /><br /><i>You got a little bit a ahead of yourself with the "heaven is now" comment. Hyperbole?</i><br /><br />No, not at all. The kingdom of heaven is inaugurated -- Jesus declared it was "at hand" -- so I do believe in a real sense heaven is now, because Jesus is risen.<br /><br />Of course, heaven is "not yet" too.<br /><br />But I look at it this way: the light from the dawn isn't not sunlight just because you can't see the sun yet.Jaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07454966527986478217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538825134834187144.post-64068752470619699942010-03-16T04:15:11.906-04:002010-03-16T04:15:11.906-04:00Hi Jared,
I spent much of my early 'christian&...Hi Jared,<br />I spent much of my early 'christian' life in a fairly legalistic and strict denomination. I was never taught that the kingdom was already inaugurated. <br /><br />I like the idea and have encountered it more and more over the past couple of years. Can you point me either to where this is shown in the bible, or to some book that explains where this idea comes from.<br /><br />Please not that I do not disagree. It's just a paradigm shift for me.<br /><br />WilliamWill Markshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018037440787483293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538825134834187144.post-4896303040346468732010-03-15T23:37:26.740-04:002010-03-15T23:37:26.740-04:00Jared,
Great post brother. So much of the missiona...Jared,<br />Great post brother. So much of the missional conversation seems to bi-pass a sound proclamation of the data points of the gospel. Thanks for insisting that this is critical to the call of the savior. (You got a little bit a ahead of yourself with the "heaven is now" comment. Hyperbole?<br /><br />I'm going to put up a link on my blog to your post. <br /><br />MartyAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07471458254482308816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538825134834187144.post-48587607111176292062010-03-13T09:33:44.482-05:002010-03-13T09:33:44.482-05:00This is especially interesting from a Pentecostal ...This is especially interesting from a Pentecostal hermeneutic. Inauguration of the kingdom includes wholistic care. Salvation, healing and deliverance. Body, soul and spirit; through the transformative power of Christ's salvation and His constantly active Spirit. Good stuff, thanks for the thought provoking dialogue.Jeremyhttp://www.drmcginnis.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538825134834187144.post-2177039648835040032010-03-11T10:22:55.722-05:002010-03-11T10:22:55.722-05:00I actually haven't been up yet, but I'm an...I actually haven't been up yet, but I'm anxious to, specifically to meet you and also to hang with a Campus Crusade missionary our church supports who's at the University.Jaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07454966527986478217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538825134834187144.post-54237787921968152212010-03-11T10:20:29.972-05:002010-03-11T10:20:29.972-05:00Indeed. I think the wife and I are gonna go down, ...Indeed. I think the wife and I are gonna go down, call it "vacation." Get at me next time you are in Burlington, would be good to meet.zach hoaghttp://thenuance.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538825134834187144.post-58294092901571702132010-03-11T10:03:42.710-05:002010-03-11T10:03:42.710-05:00Nope. I wish.Nope. I wish.Jaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07454966527986478217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538825134834187144.post-56671588341688201312010-03-11T09:57:05.949-05:002010-03-11T09:57:05.949-05:00Jared, this is GOOD. Will you be at MissionShift?Jared, this is GOOD. Will you be at MissionShift?zach hoaghttp://thenuance.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.com